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Post by Angrybirds on Jul 2, 2013 7:24:42 GMT -8
Alright. I'm tempted to autoresolve this one because it'll just boil down to the sheer amount of missiles each side has, unless the Miperiors decide to drop out of warp to try to gain some form of tactical advantage.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2013 10:07:41 GMT -8
An autoresolve could work, but the proximity of Fleet C would also have to be calculated and whatnot. Speaking of which, if we are going to actually do this thing again, we should have some sort of turns-until-Fleet-C-arrives counter.
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Post by Tek0516 on Jul 2, 2013 10:18:38 GMT -8
An autoresolve could work, but the proximity of Fleet C would also have to be calculated and whatnot. Speaking of which, if we are going to actually do this thing again, we should have some sort of turns-until-Fleet-C-arrives counter. I'd say they're still too far away to arrive for the battle, and when they do the GTE ships can outrun them if they're too weak. I'll run my autoresolve and see what we get.
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Post by Tek0516 on Jul 2, 2013 20:36:38 GMT -8
Alright, ran my autoresolve 5 times, and this was the final result for each (left is Tarkans, right is Miperiors/Amphibots). The program was set to terminate if less than 1% of the fleet remained, though it sometimes produced a negative so I used the last positive round.
3678 - 12 3555 - 15 3584 - 28 3662 - 30 3540 - 48
Average result: 3604 - 27
I can attempt to modify and see if I can produce numbers that are more favourable, but for now we're looking at 3500-3700 Tarkan ships and scattered Miperian survivors.
Also, for the sake of typing we really should have a term to refer to both the Miperiors/Amphibibots as a whole.
EDIT: I set the program to loop until the a round was generated where the Tarkans finished with less than 3500. Unless I did it wrong, it kept going for at least a few minutes before I closed...
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Post by Angrybirds on Jul 3, 2013 3:20:48 GMT -8
I'm fine with these results. If Gmfk is, we can continue posting in the main thread?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2013 5:53:14 GMT -8
Um... sure, I guess. I guess I'm speaking for Ace, but if he objects he can post later. At what area on the map would Fleet C be at, though?
EDIT: And also Sirga?
Also, you want me to delete the Battle of Fleet A thread?
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Post by Angrybirds on Jul 3, 2013 7:26:58 GMT -8
At what area on the map would Fleet C be at, though? If Fleet C continued on its current course, it would be nearing to Fleet A by the time it was destroyed, I think. Once she defeated Fleet A, Sirga would pull back and return to Etzan. Also, you want me to delete the Battle of Fleet A thread? I'd rather keep a record just in case we decide to return to it.
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Post by AceOfSpace on Jul 3, 2013 8:05:29 GMT -8
Noooo, we must destroy her >.<
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2013 15:34:42 GMT -8
But... where is Fleet A by the time it was destroyed? Remember it was going in warp, too. I guess Fleet C will trail behind Sirga and shoot warp missiles at her fleet while they're in range, putting their toughest line ships at the front. Also, I think this thing is having a toll on my health I was in the car, and I suddenly read a sign that said "Sirga." I was like, WHAT? I rubbed my eyes and read it again. It said "Signs." Being the loser is hard D:
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Post by Angrybirds on Jul 3, 2013 15:54:50 GMT -8
But... where is Fleet A by the time it was destroyed? Remember it was going in warp, too. Good point, I'd say Fleet A was in warp-missile range of Fleet C when the last of it was destroyed so the thing below works. Good idea. I guess Fleet C will trail behind Sirga and shoot warp missiles at her fleet while they're in range, putting their toughest line ships at the front. Tarkans would be firing warp missiles at the Miperian warp missiles to destroy them before they even got to them, so there would be little effect. Also, I think this thing is having a toll on my health I was in the car, and I suddenly read a sign that said "Sirga." I was like, WHAT? I rubbed my eyes and read it again. It said "Signs." Being the loser is hard D: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. You'll get better at it, don't worry. I can tell you why you lost in an objective fashion after we're done, if you want.
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Post by Tek0516 on Jul 3, 2013 15:56:45 GMT -8
I'm afraid trailing behind won't quite work. The Tarkan's 8.6 is already 33% faster than the Farengeto's 8.4. I'd need to Check my numbers, but it'd pretty much be like chasing a car on a bicycle.
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Post by Angrybirds on Jul 3, 2013 16:02:28 GMT -8
Well, for a short time it'll work. The Miperiors will have time to shoot off quite a few warp missiles which will be mounted on faster warp drives than the ones used by normal Miperian ships, right?
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Post by Angrybirds on Jul 5, 2013 4:20:26 GMT -8
If we all agree on the numbers, can we proceed with gmfk's emote?
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Post by Tek0516 on Jul 5, 2013 12:43:14 GMT -8
If we all agree on the numbers, can we proceed with gmfk's emote? I'm alright with that. I'm thinking I'll need to add a Farengeto post soon, with the outrage over the decimation of the Miperior fleet, followed by an official declaration of war. Or we have the declaration after the battle, with any action over Miperia happening while not yet in an official state of war. The Farengeto would probably prefer the first and more honourable one.
So originally when both fleets were going straight the Farengeto would have arrived a little while after the Tarkans. With the Tarkans making a detour, should we keep things this way, or keep times as they would be and have Tekari's fleet arriving and quickly trying to get whoever they can the hell out of there before things hit the fan.
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Post by AceOfSpace on Jul 6, 2013 5:22:26 GMT -8
Also, I think this thing is having a toll on my health I was in the car, and I suddenly read a sign that said "Sirga." I was like, WHAT? I rubbed my eyes and read it again. It said "Signs." Being the loser is hard D: Sometimes, things like that happens to me too.
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Post by Angrybirds on Jul 6, 2013 5:25:09 GMT -8
Wait, gmfk deleted his account o.o What happened?
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Post by Angrybirds on Jul 6, 2013 5:47:53 GMT -8
Tek, did you say you wanted there to be a battle over Miperia or would everyone retreat by this point?
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Post by Tek0516 on Jul 8, 2013 17:49:36 GMT -8
Tek, did you say you wanted there to be a battle over Miperia or would everyone retreat by this point? Well I'm thinking we can have a fun little combat bit while they try to finish evacuations. In response to the thought I heard from gmfk/Ace that evacuations would have already started after detection, that would imply they knew they would lose from the start which seems like it was far from certain at that point. They may have done some pre-cautionary relocation (though the most secure point in the empire would have still been Miperia, so it was realistically there, hidden bases, or out of the empire) but chances are an evacuation would have been ordered no more than 24 hours prior, possibly even less than 6 hours prior, when things really hit the fan. That timeframe is realistic for the finalization of the evacuation. Central figures may have waited rather than already leaving in order to gain the advantage of armed escort, especially with the Tarkans faster navy. But mostly it'll be cooler plot-wise. Remember that barring non-existent deus ex machina and homeworld-sacrificing superweapons there's a near zero chance of defeating the Tarkan fleet. It's pretty much an unwinnable battle. Sorry. The best strategy is cover evacuations (which is basically land, clear the platform, then go) then warp the hell out of there. Think worst-case scenario; it's leave or die. It's the Battle of France in space. Your only hope is to get out of the empire, and your best chance is in the Amphibibot Collective. you'll regroup with Harenda 9 hours after you turn around (about halfway to the border) and presumably other KSA nations would have sent fleets following the initial detection that should arrive within a couple days (~2 days) of your return, and after that the whole KSA Offensive Navy will be there within a week or so. *in a deep, dark voice* All Farengeto vessels execute Fleet Manuver 47B. The main Farengeto fleet will be going a significant portion of the speed of light when they reach the Tarkan fleet, much faster than most of the vessels will likely be going as they had no intention of stopping, which explains how they encounter the Tarkans first. They'll be experiencing the effects of relativity, and from their perspective the battle will probably be at least less than half as long as it actually is. Of course, the maneuver will be controlled by their central supercomputer which won't be affect and is fast enough anyway, so no problems for them other than reload times.
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Post by Tek0516 on Jul 8, 2013 19:46:51 GMT -8
Summary of the Farengeto's fleet movements: -Tekari is travelling at least 75% of the speed of light, and the time dilation factor is at least 2. (In laymen terms, for every second they experience, at least 2 seconds pass for you) -Tekari's fleet is facing away from the Tarkan fleet, with power to its real shield -Unless we change things, the Farengeto are in firing range in one minute.
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Post by Tek0516 on Jul 8, 2013 21:45:15 GMT -8
Cleared up some minor numbers stuff on the page. Oh and my last post was my hundredth!!!
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