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Post by TheBuldier on Jul 19, 2013 5:53:54 GMT -8
AB: Ok, I will fix that, how about Razorscare has the both titles?
Aeon: I need to explain that, the planets will need the standar infrastructure of a Federation planet (orbital stations, standar planetary defense systems, etc), you know, we continue at war.
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Post by Tek0516 on Jul 19, 2013 7:45:38 GMT -8
"ARTICLE IV: Henceforth, High King Razorscare will not take part in the government of Mardor space. In return for his cooperation, High King Razorscare will lawfully remain High King of the Mardor Empire, and will be treated with the dignity and respect accorded to individuals of his rank. His property in his palace on Malvire will remain his and he will be accorded an armed personal guard of three hundred individuals strong.
"ARTICLE V: The Katar Sector Alliance retains the right to terminate the previous article to immediate effect if it feels that High King Razorscare has ceased to cooperate."
Whatever they call him has to follow Article IV of the treaty. I'd say that he'd see "Dignitary" as being a violation of this. Remember this likely isn't your typical USF takeover nor, to my understanding, is it supposed to be permanent.
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Post by TheBuldier on Jul 19, 2013 8:32:12 GMT -8
USF Dignataries: Here is the link, please read it before reply. The Dignataries are exactly that Razorscare currently is, a face to show to the population. Why the KSA allow Razorscare keep his title? Because the KSA needed a tarjet for the Mardor fury, someone to blame for the Mardor downfall, this is the goal the dignitary, a man who "preserve the customs" but also a culprit to negotiate with the enemy. The Dignitary is a generic title to refer to an element outside of the policy is treated as part of this. Razorscare meets those requirements.
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Post by Angrybirds on Jul 19, 2013 14:42:04 GMT -8
He does, though a figurehead system that ascribes a generic label to what is essentially a VERY VERY culture-specific icon is unlikely to work.
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Post by Aeoneonatrix on Jul 19, 2013 20:36:13 GMT -8
"ARTICLE IV: Henceforth, High King Razorscare will not take part in the government of Mardor space. In return for his cooperation, High King Razorscare will lawfully remain High King of the Mardor Empire, and will be treated with the dignity and respect accorded to individuals of his rank. His property in his palace on Malvire will remain his and he will be accorded an armed personal guard of three hundred individuals strong. "ARTICLE V: The Katar Sector Alliance retains the right to terminate the previous article to immediate effect if it feels that High King Razorscare has ceased to cooperate." Whatever they call him has to follow Article IV of the treaty. I'd say that he'd see "Dignitary" as being a violation of this. Remember this likely isn't your typical USF takeover nor, to my understanding, is it supposed to be permanent. For it not to be permanent would entail: 1: Letting an angry enemy of the KSA as a whole and most of it's member states individually go free, and even more, one which is notably untrustworthy and almost certain to instantly resume aiding the KSA's other enemies.
2: Filling the Aeoneonatrix with completely justified alliance-ending level rage, (and mark my words, they would leave the alliance over this) as you just let go their single greatest enemy.
3: Allowing the Mardor to re-conquer all of the slaves the KSA just freed and begin expanding again, something which is too unethical for anyone in the alliance, probably even Ikeben.4: Giving up a state which has all of the benefits of a member state (trading partner and economic asset, additional territory which can do things) additional benefits (lack of need for consent in aforementioned things, possible pool of conscripts, and good conscripts at that, given that the tyranny found them worth overseering and indeed given elements of their back story which I have not yet revealed. ) and with only one major drawback, (need to defend) which is frankly a small price to pay for all of those benefits. KSA would be stupid to give that up, and would only do it in response to whatever I come up with when I want to make the former Mardor territories into a full empire.
So yeah, it's permanent, or at least long term and indefinite. |
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Post by Aeoneonatrix on Jul 19, 2013 20:43:04 GMT -8
AB: Ok, I will fix that, how about Razorscare has the both titles? Aeon: I need to explain that, the planets will need the standar infrastructure of a Federation planet (orbital stations, standar planetary defense systems, etc), you know, we continue at war. 1: That would technically not violate the treaty, but it wouldn't go over well unless the primary title used in all contexts except strictly internal USF things was Great High King. (And it is Great High King, not just high king, and that is very deliberate as the title is meant to be egotistical and pompous.) 2: So they're being given the infrastructure of a tier 2 world... well... all I have to say is "how nice of the USF." |
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Post by TheBuldier on Jul 20, 2013 7:46:30 GMT -8
He does, though a figurehead system that ascribes a generic label to what is essentially a VERY VERY culture-specific icon is unlikely to work. The system is pretty similar to the Royality in the U.K., and as far as I understand, it works pretty well. |
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Post by TheBuldier on Jul 20, 2013 7:53:47 GMT -8
1: That would technically not violate the treaty, but it wouldn't go over well unless the primary title used in all contexts except strictly internal USF things was Great High King. (And it is Great High King, not just high king, and that is very deliberate as the title is meant to be egotistical and pompous.) 2: So they're being given the infrastructure of a tier 2 world... well... all I have to say is "how nice of the USF." Yes, it is useless, but is part of the Federation burocracy. And, sorry, I will correct the title. Well, not all the worlds of the USF have such infrastructure, in fact the only planets with tier 2 infrastructure are the captials. Also this infrastructure will be more like space checkpoints and military stations, to don't interfere too much with the evolution of the species. |
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Post by TheBuldier on Jul 22, 2013 8:16:00 GMT -8
Ok, if this is solved, who continue?
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