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Post by Angrybirds on Jun 25, 2013 17:59:02 GMT -8
We can say the bombers don't move up from the carriers?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2013 18:18:54 GMT -8
Hm, I'll see what I can do with Ace. (Don't worry, it won't take too long this time)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2013 17:09:33 GMT -8
Is it possible to shoot too, or are we going so fast that we'd fly straight into or shots or something?
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Post by Angrybirds on Jun 26, 2013 17:42:46 GMT -8
I think we can go on the assumption that missiles/projectiles will be travelling at the speed of the ship that fired them + the speed at which they were launched, and that they'll remain at warp as they arc towards their targets. So essentially, the projectiles will be moving at the same speed relative to the ships as when they're in realspace. Any opinions on this, Tek?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2013 17:51:42 GMT -8
Strap tiny warp drives to the bullets  |
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Post by Angrybirds on Jun 26, 2013 18:08:53 GMT -8
Lol, that's interesting. Do objects at warp tend to stay at warp unless pulled out of it by a warp drive, or do they have to be constantly kept "afloat" by minor adjustments done to the object's warp field?
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Post by Tek0516 on Jun 26, 2013 19:29:25 GMT -8
I think we can go on the assumption that missiles/projectiles will be travelling at the speed of the ship that fired them + the speed at which they were launched, and that they'll remain at warp as they arc towards their targets. So essentially, the projectiles will be moving at the same speed relative to the ships as when they're in realspace. Any opinions on this, Tek? Well all I have to go on with this is a scene from the new Star Trek movie. The two ships engage at warp (one of which was faster). It's a brief scene, but in it a volley is launched and continues at the warp speed. It's important to remember in this battle we're travelling several thousand times the speed of light, or over a billion kilometers a second. You're always going forward, amd turning too much or stopping leaves you behind. For fixedangle weaponry (such as on fighters) this is especially important. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2013 3:56:59 GMT -8
Welp, I'll be away for now, tomorrow, and the week-end. If you want to keep going on, Angry, Ace can figure out what to do with the whole bomber thing and he can tell you, and then you can edit my post to what Ace suggested.
EDIT: Actually, I'll check up on here every now and then, though only for moments at a time
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2013 8:12:52 GMT -8
Oh, there's this question I've been having for a while - what warp drive does is increase the distance behind the ship while decreasing the distance that actually needs to be travelled, right? But, despite how little distance has to be travelled, a faster propulsion system should help. So, if two ships have identical warp drives, but one has a faster propulsion system, does that one go faster?
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Post by Tek0516 on Jun 27, 2013 19:38:50 GMT -8
Oh, there's this question I've been having for a while - what warp drive does is increase the distance behind the ship while decreasing the distance that actually needs to be travelled, right? But, despite how little distance has to be travelled, a faster propulsion system should help. So, if two ships have identical warp drives, but one has a faster propulsion system, does that one go faster? I've been wondering the same thing. But I think warp simply compresses space in front of you and stretches space behind you, pretty muc moving space around you. Basically the movement is space itself, rather than your ship. Your movement in the local space is still the same STL speeds, but from outside the warp you are travelling superluminally. From my best guess your real speed would only change how fast you move outside warp. |
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Post by Angrybirds on Jun 27, 2013 20:39:56 GMT -8
Yeah, I agree.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2013 16:57:45 GMT -8
Compressed space is still space, and space can be travelled through. Thus, with a propulsion system, you can actually move forward through the compressed space and go quicker. Not only is space moving around you, but you are also moving across space in the same direction. Should make ya move faster.
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Post by Tek0516 on Jun 28, 2013 19:48:27 GMT -8
Compressed space is still space, and space can be travelled through. Thus, with a propulsion system, you can actually move forward through the compressed space and go quicker. Not only is space moving around you, but you are also moving across space in the same direction. Should make ya move faster. The space around your ship moves in a bubble. If my understanding is correct, it'd be pretty much like a hamster wheel. If that understamding is incorrect, you might add a few extra STL kilometers a second to your billions of kilometers a second. Either way it won't help out much. Remember this is some fancy physics, where conventional logic does not always apply. |
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Post by Angrybirds on Jun 28, 2013 20:06:41 GMT -8
I was under the impression that the bubble moved with you?
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Post by Angrybirds on Jun 28, 2013 20:09:09 GMT -8
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Post by Tek0516 on Jun 28, 2013 20:27:09 GMT -8
Me and AB have agreed that whatever your relative speed is, it has a negligible, if any, effect on the warp speed of our fictions.
Due to energy purposes your relative speed can be changed and carries over when entering or exiting warp. (So of you're going .9c you stay at .9c.)
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Post by Tek0516 on Jun 29, 2013 10:30:38 GMT -8
I was literally just about to post this when Ace posted: On a sidenote,  |
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Post by AceOfSpace on Jun 29, 2013 11:04:32 GMT -8
I was literally just about to post this when Ace posted: On a sidenote, lol |
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