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Post by Angrybirds on Oct 17, 2013 17:46:51 GMT -8
Kingdom of Miperiors(DARK RED)
 Tier level: 4.2 Number of systems: 687 Military capacity: 13,740 Military size: Full Warp factor: 8.6 Special: Light ships are resistant to long-range sensors and can travel around the campaign map virtually undetected. Order of Battle |
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Post by TheBuldier on Oct 20, 2013 9:20:47 GMT -8
The order of battle wouldn't be Ardir and Abadan?
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Post by Angrybirds on Oct 20, 2013 10:41:05 GMT -8
It would be. I'm just withholding it because of the fog of war.
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Post by TheBuldier on Oct 23, 2013 7:11:50 GMT -8
Who continues?
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Post by Angrybirds on Oct 23, 2013 7:25:04 GMT -8
It's Drodo's turn to post.
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Post by Angrybirds on Oct 24, 2013 7:40:48 GMT -8
I know I was originally the one to push the envelope with this, but I think we might have gone a bit too far with explicit references to Tarkan sexuality. I had originally meant it to be a subtle thing, but it's gone from subtle references (the fact that Sirga was in Etzan's bed, for example) to open statements like this:
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Now let me be clear, I don't condemn these posts and I don't want them taken down––at least, not until we've reached consensus on this.
I guess the question is: How far is too far? Have we crossed that threshold?
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Post by Angrybirds on Oct 24, 2013 8:44:18 GMT -8
I personally think that, since the Tarkans are sexual beings just as we are, exploring that sexuality a bit would give a more honest and in-depth exploration of their character. Each allusion to it served a specific storytelling purpose: - Subtle references to it in that scene between Etzan and Sirga were used in conjunction with dialogue to establish their private relationship.
- The open statements in Larin's post were meant to give insight into the machinations of the court. It also helped show Abanan in the wake of one of his feasts.
- It was also used in Buldier's post to show how little Ardir cares about the feelings and volition of his servants.
With that said, gratuitous explorations of sexuality might make many of us uncomfortable and ultimately serve no purpose. I think that reasonable allusions to help tell the story could be alright, though. |
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Post by OfficerJackal on Oct 24, 2013 8:53:16 GMT -8
I think it's fine to be explicit if you have to, since it might be necessary to advance the story plot, or to provide more detail into something if you want. Among many other reasons to use it. However, I don't believe you should just throw in explicit stuff like that for the sake of it, it must have some sort of meaning.
So yeah, I'm fine with explicit sexuality in stories, just as I am with my explicit and implied violence in my stories.
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Post by TheBuldier on Oct 24, 2013 10:21:02 GMT -8
I think if we look Tarkan society, it makes perfect sense to be explicit. Anyway, I think it best not to show details.
Also think this: We wouldn't be the first to show explicit sexuality into the wiki.
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Post by DrodoEmpire on Oct 24, 2013 12:54:57 GMT -8
I agree with Buldier. As long as it makes sense for it to be in the story and it isn't too detailed, its perfectly fine.
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Post by Genesis on Oct 24, 2013 13:41:13 GMT -8
Simply put.
Go nuts.
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Post by zmr56 on Oct 24, 2013 13:43:45 GMT -8
Don't put too much detail. That's it really.
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Post by TheBuldier on Oct 26, 2013 1:14:58 GMT -8
So, we are 9 official users. 3 of us think "yes, is fine while is not too detailed", 2 said "yes, is fine while it's necessary for the plot", and one said "just do it". So, if this is a voting, can we consider this debate concluded?
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Post by TheBuldier on Oct 26, 2013 1:19:47 GMT -8
Active, I mean.
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Post by Angrybirds on Oct 26, 2013 11:01:33 GMT -8
Yep.
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Post by TheBuldier on Oct 26, 2013 12:35:13 GMT -8
Excellent, Drodo, you continue.
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Post by TheBuldier on Nov 30, 2013 10:57:37 GMT -8
I should say, there are something wrong somewhere. - First) The soldiers that are attacking Ardir's palace, are they Amphibibot? Because I don't think that KSA soldiers could enter in a fully fortified planet, particularly near the palace.
- Second) How did Kage to jam the Tarkan's communications? If he create a kind of virtual tunnel to obtain the enemy's information isn't he taking the risk of someone use the same way to steal his information? That could especially dangerous if he is connected to KSA's ships as it seems.
We should talk here about the continuity or logic mistakes. |
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Post by Genesis on Nov 30, 2013 13:50:51 GMT -8
Alright, lets preface this response with this: Everything I say is confirmed by AB. If you don't like it, or don't understand it, please, take it up with him as this is not my place of expertise.
To my understanding, here is my response.
Firstly, the soldiers are KSA. Secondly, Planet 001 would probably only be fortified against any sort of insurrection on behalf of the Amphibibots. That means its fortresses would have high walls, a number of turrets mounted on them, and a ground army's worth of warriors to counter an uprising should it happen. What it wouldn't logically have is extensive defenses against any sort of orbital attack. You have to understand that Planet 001 is smack dab in the middle of Tarkan territory. Turning it into a fortified bastion would be like erecting bunkers, barbed wire, trenches, and SAM position around Berlin or Paris when the enemy is all the way at the borders. Wouldn't the resources necessary to erect such defenses be better spent at said border worlds instead of at a planet several hundred light years away? I think so. Unless, the Tarkans took a few hits of crack and made the decision to leave most of their territory undefended.
Crystal meth, not even once.
To answer your second point, (and this is something that AB has drilled into my head) EVERYONE JAMS EVERYONE. As far as i'm concerned, you are jamming me as we speak. There is no need for a special method to get around it. Jamming happens. Period. Whether it is flooding sub-space and the lower ends of the electromagnetic spectrum with static, or in my case, playing piano there are numerous easy and effective methods to do so. Getting around it is the fun part. In my case, the Nakeimato and Ezlangei have methods to communicate with one another (likely by electromagnetic pulses on the higher end, or some shit. I don't own these fictions, so I don't know the gist of it). The Tarkans are no different.
While we are nitpicking, allow me to add my own little thing. Your magic communicators.. Not only are they a bit of a meta, and a god mode, they are really just a bit cheesy. The tarkans don't need that at all, they already have the means and method to communicate without having the three power-ranger communicators. Mind you, there are line of sight restrictions, but we are operating on the same playing field if that is the case.
Have an awesome day. ^.^b
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Post by TheBuldier on Dec 2, 2013 5:13:41 GMT -8
Alright. Well, about the KSA attack, I have to say that we are fighting a war in space. High walls are obsolete in this war and Ardir was expecting the KSA counterattack since the Miperors Fall, so he probably planned a kind of orbital defense or security system (network of turbolasers-armed orbital stations or spy satellites), at least near his palace, and as you said . Also, here the war doesn't works like in the Earth, here we need to conquer territories to obtain resources and supply before attack capitals. Tier 4-3 empires have already find ways to create the supplies in the flagships or support ships using energy (aka. solar energy), so stop in frontier planets wouldn't be necessary and conquer them would be waste of energy. You can pass almost undetected the frontiers of any tier 3 empire or above, so the most logical thing is attack the key planets, and of course fortify them. Anyway, I can imagine that the KSA ships can pass through the defenses if they land, as you said, surgically. But I don't think that big assault vehicles would pass undetected, and I don't think that the KSA troops would like to fight the ground defenses. It is possible, though, that the Tarkans wouldn't detect some light and small support vehicles and some ground troops. About the jammed communications, that was my mistake, sorry. I understood when you talked about Kage's "omnipresence" and "omniscience" that he found a way to not only jam but infiltrate in Tarkan communications and so know what their strategy was, being almost invincible. I thought in a way to being above that "god-mode" using another, the magic communicators, which would be a sort of quantum entanglement based communicators, technology not too above 21st century earth's but very expensive and almost impossible to jam. So, I think that the solution of these problems would be: - Or Kage is omniscient and Ardir has developed the magic communicators
- Or Kage isn't omniscient and the magic communicators are just Ardir's way to communicate with his most trusted commanders.
- Or KSA troops actually arrived to Ardir's palace undetected but without much support.
- Or KSA troops arrived to the palace with support but Tarkan's reinforcement will arrive soon as well.
Again, sorry if I misunderstood something. Have a nice day. |
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Post by Angrybirds on Dec 2, 2013 11:38:21 GMT -8
Hm. I think I can see where we differ. Genesis tends to use flowery and exaggerated language (referring to Kage's love of music) in an attempt to convey the feeling of the character in the moment. What he meant by "omnipresent" was that Kage's music is everywhere, and his reach––his control of the battlefield––feels boundless. It's like the egomaniac's rant about control and power, except infused with a childlike state of wonder. Also, the KSA troops are deploying on the planet in a swarm of shuttles supported by a small number of light ships and frigates. They warped as in as close to the atmosphere as possible and then fell down to the surface, kind of like this: ( LINK). Except instead of jumping out once they reached the surface, they reversed their thrust and decelerated to the point where they could hover over the palace and drop an army's worth of infantry into it using cables, transporters, and landing in the courtyard and outside. Since there might be a shield around the fortress––which I agree would be very logical and consistent with Tarkan lore––transporters might not be an option. I imagine that the KSA would take a good number of casualties on the way down due to AA fire, but the Tarkans wouldn't have a perfect "iron dome" defense, just a weak one because their resources would be better used elsewhere. I'll get to that in a second. In short, there are no vehicles involved, no tanks, etc. The object of that particular action is to get in there, seize the fortress and capture as much of the Tarkan leadership as possible. KSA strike craft are descending and taking shots at Tarkan defensive position, namely their AA and the fortress' barracks in an effort to diminish the army's worth of Tarkan warriors staying in there before they have time to mobilize. (Posting this for now, I'll continue it when I can) |
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